Cohocton Lessor Hal Graham complaining about noise

Submitted by visitorfromclinton on Sat, 03/14/2009 - 11:05am.

That's an interesting contrast. The landowners I know are quite happy and satisified with the arrangement. HSB, what do you think the ratio is of satisified landowners to landowners that want to break the contract?

On Sat, 03/14/2009 - 11:34am, hsb said:

Does the ratio matter? The point is, despite all their scientific "studies" turbine companies have no means to predict when their turbines will produce unacceptable noise and when they won't. What they will do though is:
--Reduce turbine speed when "planned visits" (other towns coming in to check on "noise issues") are happening (why would they do that if there are no sound issues?)
--Turn a deaf ear to complaints from lessors, stalling with "studies" and denying the issue.

The overall point is that people who want to expand industrial wind power plants counter "noise" arguments by saying that those complaining are those that were against turbines to being with (or those who were jealous that their neighbors got money and they didn't). This counters that. This is a lessor who previously laughed at noise claims who is now speaking out about it. Even he (a town justice) worries about the effect of his warning about wind turbines on his contract. How many people are unsatisfied yet are afraid to speak out for fear of breaking their lease agreements (whether speaking out would or would not actually break it)?

But again, the point is that they do, under the wrong circumstances, create unbearable sound conditions, and they have no means to properly predict when they will or won't. That it's a lessor speaking out lends credibility that can't be waved away with "NIMBY" claims.

On Mon, 03/16/2009 - 11:12am, formosa said:

How would Visitor know, he signed a contract with a gag order that he could not speak anything negative about the turbines. Every leaseholder agreed to this clause, as well as the many non-leasing property such as the owners at Flat Rock that were paid "impact" payments.

Visitor attempting (pathetically) to discredit complaints is as predictable as the sun rising in the morning.

On Fri, 03/20/2009 - 7:48pm, visitorfromclinton said:

I never said I had a gag order (please tell me when I did). Its not true.

On Mon, 03/23/2009 - 11:42pm, formosa said:

If you signed a lease contract (which you claim you did) - then you signed to the effect that you would not say anything negative about the project. It's standard language in all the lease contracts.

On Fri, 03/27/2009 - 7:01pm, visitorfromclinton said:

Not in my contact buddy. Guess you're wrong again.